Along with HSJ correspondents Annabelle Collins and Rebecca Thomas, they explore whether mental health is being neglected in the general election campaign, whether more beds are the answer to current care failures, and the role of carers and communities.

Sean Duggan is chief executive of the Mental Health Network of the NHS Confederation, and Matthew Trainer is chief executive of Oxleas Foundation Trust. 

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The podcast will be back later this week, available as normal on Friday morning, with a mental health episode recorded at the HSJ Mental Health Summit in Leeds.

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